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goatboy goatboy
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 07/07
Posted: 07/03/07
04:15 PM

Ok, I am starting my first restoration, and I admit - I am a novice. I have a 69 GTO that has had a bunch of bad work done to it, and I am going to take it back to its roots, starting with the engine (it doesn't have one now).

I know it was supposed to have a 400 in it, but knowing it will never get back to absolute original, should I put in a 400, or should I jsut put in something really neat? What creates the best value (again, knowing it will never go back to absolute original)?

Thanks  

gastiresoil gastiresoil
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 01/14
Posted: 01/26/14
01:35 PM

I've been a GTO owner for a long time and I still have one, a 64 convertible.
The reason for owning one I'm sure is the same reason you have acquired one.
The GTO is the standard that all muscle cars are measured by, so when you drive it you will be looking down on all the others.
To accomplish that feeling it must have the 400 it came with, the torque that the big cube Pontiacs deliver is the best feeling and that is what gives the GTO the reputation it has gained.
I'm still running a 428 with a 65 tri-power in a 78 4wd El Camino.
Finding the parts you need to build this way will be the hard part.
I do have a 1969 400, I bought it disassembled about 35 years ago, I have block, heads, crank and an intake. Never gave a thought about selling it till now.

Just something to think about, you wouldn't want anybody looking under the hood and make the comment, "Oh, it has a Chevy in it" When you walk the walk you'll understand, you didn't buy what someone else has, you bought a GTO!

Good luck
The GTO guy  

shyrgfuh70 shyrgfuh70
User | Posts: 93 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 01/26/14
01:45 PM

if you want hp, install a 455 ci or a 400 with a stroker kit.

the 400 and 455 look the same externally.

the 455 might be cheaper to buy used than a 400.

i would not run a 455 or a 400 more than .040" over, ever.  

idrivejunk idrivejunk
Addict | Posts: 5168 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 01/26/14
02:06 PM

Welcome aboard, goatboy. Since you "will never get back to absolute original" and speaking in terms of value only, alternate engines do not seem to hurt the price too bad. If thats the question. When in doubt, customize. Iron Pontiacs are great but they do have limitations that make it tough to compete today.  
idrivejunk

Brazil Brazil
Addict | Posts: 3965 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 01/26/14
06:19 PM

Welcome to the Pontiac tribe GB!

Post some pics of your new (old) GTO when you can.

It's too early to get into specifics yet, just consider keeping it Pontiac with your classic. Our forum has quite a few GTO guys that are very cool, and always ready to help out when you have questions. All early Pontiacs have many things in common, especially in the engine catagory. They were made to haul butt.

You'll find folks with all levels of experience, so don't worry about asking about anything from fixing a crooked door to the depths of camshaft/drivetrain dynamics.

Just my opinion, but a well built pre 1973 400 would be a good starting point toward getting back the original nature of the car. Is it automatic or manual?

Give us the details as you can, and the gang will jump right in if we are knowledgable on a particular topic...  

big-g-67gto big-g-67gto
Guru | Posts: 913 | Joined: 07/10
Posted: 01/27/14
04:08 PM

An old GTO would not be a Gto without a PMD power plant under the hood.

Grin  
I got that Tin Indian GRIN!!

gtojack1366 gtojack1366
Guru | Posts: 1278 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 01/27/14
04:25 PM

I would look for 400 428 455 1968 to 1973 . They all look the same under the hood .If you can find a 69 GTO 400 engine that would make it worth more . Do you have a stick or automatic ? Why does the thread say posted in 07 ????  

idrivejunk idrivejunk
Addict | Posts: 5168 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 01/27/14
04:59 PM

Good eye, Jack. I am guilty of not checking the date on a newly active post. Woops!  Shocked  
idrivejunk

Brazil Brazil
Addict | Posts: 3965 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 01/27/14
08:27 PM

Slipped by me too Sir Jack, dang thing's probably way done or worse by now!  

gastiresoil gastiresoil
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 01/14
Posted: 01/28/14
07:47 PM

I'm not going to admit to anything, but I think I got the ball rolling. Get'n old aint for sissies.

GTO guy  

Brazil Brazil
Addict | Posts: 3965 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 01/29/14
04:42 AM

Haaaa!
It's all good gastiresoil, just glad to have ya on board buddy!!!  

gtojack1366 gtojack1366
Guru | Posts: 1278 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 01/29/14
06:05 AM

It took that poor guy 7 years and a thousand views to get a reply no wonder he only had 1 post ! Must of been no one around in 07 ? Goatboy must be Goatman by now !  Grin  

shyrgfuh70 shyrgfuh70
User | Posts: 93 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 01/29/14
06:33 AM

LOL.  

jbmacneil jbmacneil
Enthusiast | Posts: 542 | Joined: 07/09
Posted: 01/29/14
04:08 PM

Leave it to GTOJack to spot that!! WOW, and I was sooo excited to have someone else in the same spot I was a few years ago!! Darnit!! GTOBoy is now GTOMAN!!!  Grin Wow Im still laughing!!! You guys are all the best! The only thing I was going to add was how about maybe a 04 to 06 drivetrain from the (sorry) so called GTOs?? Im guessing the point is moot now anyway since GTOboy will probably never see this?? JB  

gtojack1366 gtojack1366
Guru | Posts: 1278 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 01/29/14
05:32 PM

He's what you call a new / old user .This thread has been on here longer than all of us !! It's about time it got answered !  Grin  

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