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Blazed67
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 07/28/08
03:05 PM

THe car is a 67 firebird vert, with a 73 350 that won't start now.

OK heres the story. The other night i was putting in my new battery and when i connected the battery cables there was a metal on metal contact and it sparked and smoked a little bit i disconnected the battery and fixed that problem and reconnected everything and go to start her up and nothing. No turning over no clicking no nothing. So I'm thinking i shorted out my battery.

I get my battery tested and its fine. So i talk to one of my buddies and he thinks I may have shorted out the solenoid for the starter. So i change that out and there is still nothing no clicking no nothing. No i go out and get a new starter after i get that tested it was fine but the guy recommended getting a new one cause it was close to dying. Well i put the new starter and and i still got NOTHING.

I'm all out of ideas, i'm covered in grease and dirt and im actually a little pissed off. So if anyone has any advise on what could be wrong it would be greatly appreciated.  


 
nutjob1976
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 07/29/08
02:39 AM

check the battery cables with a test light maje sure the + cable to the starter is hot if so, go in the car and check all your fuses the ignition comes from inside not the battery so you probably blew a fuse also check continuity from turning the key in the crank position and the starter soleniod wiretry all this first  


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barneyformula
Enthusiast | Posts: 498 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 07/29/08
05:57 AM

check the red wires that go from the starter positive post (or possibly from the alternator positive post) that go to the main fuse panel, they have a fusible link wire in them that protects  the circuit from shorts like you described. If the link wire is melted you won't have power in the innterior or starter circuit.
Steve  


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davidirvineleo
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/29/08
09:30 PM

you might try a jumper wire bypassing the starter solenoid from the battery to the starter (careful there may be sparks) sometimes when shorted out causes to much resistance in the cable itself and wont get enough juice. Ive changed my starter in a 711 parking lot to no avail because of that( to bad i didn't find out til i towed the car home) good luck bud  


 
Blazed67
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 07/30/08
12:51 PM

OK now i haven another problem. I'm looking to change all my fuses with new ones but my problem is that the person who had the car prior to me go over spray on my fusebox. So Does anyone have a picture of the fusebox and which amp fuse goes where and which its for?  


 
Blazed67
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 08/03/08
07:15 AM

I changed all my fuses and my friend came over to help and well we pretty much discover that the battery and the starter are the only things in the car getting power. All the wires that should have power in them are not hot at all.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what could be wrong now?  


 
CruzK9
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 08/03/08
11:28 AM

If your Firebird is anything like my 67 Lemans, I has a similar issue where everything just died. I had 12VDC from the battery and on the alternator.  However I had no 12VDC on the fuse block inside the car.  I began tracing wires back and what I found with mine was the firewall connector had come loose.  I have two firewall connectors on the driver's side firewall.  The outermost, or right hand connector as you look in the engine bay, had popped loose some how.  I cleaned the connector, greases it up with electrical grease and snapped it back on.  All was well.  If you've shorted the battery and drew too much current you may have blown a wire or fried a connector pin.  Check that connector on the firewall and make sure it is okay and that you have 12VDC on one or more of the pins.  


 
barneyformula
Enthusiast | Posts: 498 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 08/03/08
12:49 PM

Once again, if you have no power inside the car, check the fusible links, they will be the soft flexible section of wire about two inches long either near the starter positive post or the alternator positive post. They feed power to the ignition and all accessories. Everyone overlooks these because most don't know they are there, but they are just doing their job, protecting all the circuits inside the car from a major short like you had. Most parts stores have fusible link wires that you can splice in to replace the burnt ones.
Steve  


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nutjob1976
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 08/04/08
06:20 PM

barney gave you the answer stop typing and listen to him he's 100% right  


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steve51
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/05/08
07:10 AM

Look for a black fusible link wire, at stater pos. connection or on alt. This wir will have power on one side and not the other, you can tug on it and it will stretch because the wire inside melted. Replace with only fusible link wire.  


 
mdmBOP
New User | Posts: 26 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 08/05/08
08:26 AM

I did the same thing with my 77 Phoenix while jumping my sister's car. The positive jumper cable was touching the radiator support and welded itself to the metal (car was still running). After I pried the cable off of the car and battery I parked in the drive way, the next day when I tried to start...nothing. $120 later, I discovered what a fusible link was. Check your fusible links before you do anything else, they should be connected where the battery cable connects to the starter solenoid.  


 
Thomas6
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 08/08
Posted: 08/05/08
10:06 AM

Hi
Dunno if you recived an answer that worked for this problem but thought l would add my 2 cents Anyway.. l would check and see if l had power at the ignition switch. pull the ignition switch by turning it on to acsessory and poking a stiff wire in the little hole in the face and pull th lock mechanisim out then spin off the nut and drop the switch down, take your test light ans see if theres power at the switch( probly a thick red wire) if there is then turn on the switch and see if you have power to the terminals if you do then turn it to start..look and see if another heavy lead (possibly purple) gets hot on start.if it does start looking at the nutral safety switch down at the shifter if ya got it there on start  Try looking at the purple wire leading from the switch back out to the solinoid lead on the starter.. it's somwhere in there its only got the starter switch and the nutral safety in the line and it's one wire.

                           good luck

                             Tom  


 
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