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Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
Guru | Posts: 1655 | Joined: 02/08
Posted: 08/01/09
11:14 AM

Guide plates are not needed on the summit heads I recommend.
I have used them as is and they proformed well.  
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Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/01/09
11:27 AM

Could you send me a couple pics of the bottoms of the lifters and make them a little bigger this time.
The only way you could tell if the lobes were worn is if you wipped out a lobe because even the trained eye could not tell if one or more lobes are worn more then the other if there is a minamal differance in measurement.
THe 165CC runner size is the max. flow of the intake runners.
THe chambers are 72CC  last set I bought for a costumer were 67CC and that is what they advertize in the cataloge may be it's a typo on there web site..  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
User | Posts: 81 | Joined: 07/09
Posted: 08/02/09
07:26 PM

I emailed you those pics.......would you say that the summit heads are every bit as good if not better than my camel humps?  Do you know how many CC's the runners and chambers are on a camel hump for comparison?  

 
inthewoods inthewoods
User | Posts: 91 | Joined: 05/09
Posted: 08/02/09
08:46 PM

Never use new lifters on an old cam the lifters will eat the cam up.also the cost to fix your heads is not worth it sinking money into a set of antiquated 30 plus yr old design is a waste.You can get Dart iron Eagles for 875.00-GM fast burns,Vortecs a manifold swap necessary  with Vortec .RHS has an excellent head for a good price.
Vortecs also use a self aligning rocker arm-Larger intake riunners are not necessary for street use Larger runners need bigger carbs and higher RPM's to really start cooking good.Also larger runners are really designed for larger displacement engines 377,383,406 etc.
Be wary of buying heads that were 1.94 and are machined for 2.02 intakes not as much of an improvement as claimed by most retailers.Street 1.94's(torque)  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/03/09
07:16 AM

I would say they are better they have stainless steel valves and good springs that are good up to .520 lift.
Your heads have 161CC runners and 64CC chambers.
I have used the summit heads and they are well worth the money team that up with properly matched cam and you will have a great performer on your hands.
The pictures were a little fuzzy but on the last pic. I could see a circular wear pattern and it looks like you will need new lifters which also mean a new cam as well because if the lifters are showing that much wear then the cam is worn as much if not more.  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
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Posted: 08/04/09
08:36 PM

Thanks PM8, I think I have made up my mind to buy the new heads you suggested from Summit.  From what you are saying it looks like I am going to have to invest in a new cam and lifters as well so looks like I wont get my car back on the road before the snow starts to fall here in the great white north.  The car dynoed at 400 HP so with the new parts I am sure I can squeek out a few more HP.

I am curiouse however to hear what you say about just using what I have for now and just installing the new heads so I can drive it for another 2 months roughly and then over winter replace the cam and lifters?  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/05/09
06:39 AM

Your welcome.
I would not recommend doing that because if you wipe out a lobe the metal from that could do damage to other parts of the engine as well.
Oh be sure to break in the new cam and lifters properly.  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
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Posted: 08/05/09
08:58 AM

I should have asked you what you would recommend for a cam and lifter combination to compliment and even boost the HP some more for these heads?  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/05/09
09:15 AM

What is the primary use of the Ventura street, street/strip or race.  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
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Posted: 08/05/09
10:16 AM

The primary use is for Street, but I would like to take it down to the drag strip once or twice to see what she is capable of so maybe street/strip...lol.  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/05/09
11:35 AM

One more thing I forgot to ask does it have a auto trans. and if so what rpm stall converter does it have.  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
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Posted: 08/05/09
12:57 PM

Yes it is an auto, with a turbo 350 and a 2500 stall convertor and a shift kit.  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/05/09
05:39 PM

I would go with this cam P#LUN-07102LK it has a .507 lift and a rpm range of 2200-6200 this cam should make the most of the summit heads and compliment them well.  
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74Ventura 74Ventura
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Posted: 08/05/09
09:03 PM

Sounds good, and they are on sale right now too!!  What about the push rods, are they re-useable?  They have "7372 competition cams magnum" written on them.

FYI, took the pax side head off tonight...funny how the second one goes a whole lot easier.  Just having trouble getting the header out of the engine bay on the drivers side because the steering box is in the way.  I figured since I have it apart I may as well paint the headers with that new header paint.

Another thing I am considering is that since I have to take the cam out....this engine has a noisy gear drive, so I may swap it with a standard timing chain.

Thanks again for the help!  

 
Pontiacman8 Pontiacman8
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Posted: 08/06/09
12:25 PM

I would use a double roller timing set if you swap it out.  
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