First day here! (First day for ANY forum, actually) Kinda like this pickin' people's brains instead of learning from mistakes by myself. Hope I'm doin' this correctly, so, here goes. I've got a '59 Catalina in the garage and new front brake shoes and drums in the basement. No problem installing, as I've been doing this kind of stuff since the early '70s. Noticed that the shoes are the same number that fit my '63 Cat with self-adjusters. The '59 is manually adjusted. Was wondering if anyone knows if I can just buy the self-adjusting hardware and install it on the '59? Thanks in advance!
the secret is out.. YES... you can and should perform this on the front and back brakes..and just for others.. please verify that when you activate the lever that rotates the adjuster that it actually opens the adjuster.
Great! and thanks! It just seemed like such a no-brainer, but I hadn't heard of it before. Everyone wants to go to discs but for my purpose, the stock brakes are fine. ...and if the adjuster is in backwards, it will loosen up, won't it?
vogtoauto:Great! and thanks! It just seemed like such a no-brainer, but I hadn't heard of it before. Everyone wants to go to discs but for my purpose, the stock brakes are fine. ...and if the adjuster is in backwards, it will loosen up, won't it?well.. yes... its usually they are installed on the wrong side of the car...i was actually looking for the self adjuster kit numbers and i could not find them but i did not look hard or thru all my sources.. there has been a LOT of part numbers that have been dropped by the electronic catalogs and manufacturers. look like they will fit from cats up thru 64.. please measure the shoe size and identify the fmsi shoe numbers.. it makes it easier to find the proper spring and self adjuster kits.. if you get stranded.. i have some brake parts catalogs around here that have most numbers.. they are just boxed and stacked where its a pain to get them all out.. as the boxes of catalogs are at the bottom of the stacks..edit.. i have not had a chance to dig thru all the boxes yet..
just for kicks... these are cheep...1979 Chevrolet Truck G10 1/2 ton Van 5.7L 4BL OHV 8cylself adjuster kits Part Number: H2590and...Part Number: H2591 this is an 11x2" brake shoe application.. with a similar shaped shoe.. here is the hold down and return springs to match.. you might be out 25 bucks for all 3...Duralast/Brake Drum All-In-One Kit - RearPart Number: H7191Notes: 11" x 2" brakesyou may need slightly longer hold down pins that stick thru the back of the backing plate with 2 1/2" shoes.. probably 1/4" longer.. as its half the increase amount.. compare a 449 brake shoe to your brake shoes.. i forgot the part numberi am still looking.. i have a LOT of boxes to move and go thru... this is JUST an idea..
Thanks, these are some great ideas. I thought I'd just go to my trusty Ames catalog, but this stuff isn't available through them. I'll take a look at those Chevy pickup parts. Are those Wagner numbers? I've bought the "nails" by length before. Thanks again for all your help.
those are AZ part numbers.. probably the same as carlson... brakeware is the brand they sell. i still have not found my brake hardware catalog.. i know its around.. but i have like 40+ boxes of parts catalogs.. and most are buried.. a parts distributor i worked at closed.. i brought home a Car stuffed full of catalogs.. they had catalogs from almost every manufacturer out there.. and i only picked the ones that i thought i might eventually use at some point..
Hello again. What with working on the '66 Tempest, '63 Catalina and 1919 house remodel, finally got around to the '59's brakes. Tried to have my local NAPA cross those numbers you gave me. As hard as it looked for him, I was afraid something wouldn't be quite right. He gave me a 80659, which wouldn't reach the adjuster wheel. I looked it up myself and found it fits a bunch of GM rear brakes in the 9.5" size! After a little looking online myself, I found NAPA does still list brake spring kits for the '63 Chevies. I bought an 80659 left front kit, laid this stuff in the drum on the new shoes, and it looks real good. I'm going to get the 80660 for the right side. The rears are the same. I'll need the return springs, 81306, because, of course, the rear spring will be shorter, as it connects to the actuating link rather than the hole in the shoe. Hold down kits are still available, but the front brakes are 2.75 instead of 2.5. The 80707 "nails" are 2 3/16, just like my originals. Don't have this all together, yet, but I feel confident it will work. If I find out differently, I'll let you know.