I'm looking to upgrade my power steering system to a Type II pump but can't find any brackets that are designed for use with a Pontiac V8. The closest thing I've found is a march performance set but that's for a serpentine conversion and way expensive. There has to be something out there.Thanks!
This could be one of those situations where nothing is manufactured because theres a fairly simple fabricated solution. If you can eyeball the new and old pumps side by side, there may be an obvious fix that just involves altering the steel mount plate.
no.. that will require custom brackets.. you will need to carefully measure the distance of the middle of your pulley grooves to the face of the cylinder head.. so you can calculate how thick to make your new bracket.. i have a question.. why do you think that going thru all this work is going to be an UPGRADE... the pumps work in an identical fashion. even some of the parts are interchangeable.. you may also want to invest in a Gates Drive align laser belt pulley alignment tool.. so you can be sure of the alignment..edit..i looked over at the march conversion kit.. and they offer kits that actually include the original style power steering pumps.. including their billet version. but i did not see a pontiac engine version with the type II pump..
It could be considered an upgrade if a remote reservoir were to be used, couldn't it? All I found was a special banjo fitting and lines, I think from Detroit Speed. I have never converted anything to type II.
Thanks Guys!I thought I might need to fab some brackets; its the hot rodding thing to do!The type II pump doesn't have as much flow as the saginaw pump in the upper rpm ranges. Apparently the saginaw can flow in the 20 gpm range in the upper rpm's where the type II is back down at 15 gpm. The thing is all of that flow is not needed, goes through the bypass and just heats the Power steering fluid up. As a result the Type II provides ample flow and pressure at low rpm but has less parasitic HP loss over the rpm range; up to 50% reduction in power steering draw loss. So less HP loss, that's good.I also have a larger remote reservoir, and while providing more fluid to work with it can also give it a more appealing under hood appearance; at least in my opinion. To each their own. But part of me wants to solve the problem just because I've never seen it done before. I still need to do the leakdown tests as mentioned in an earlier thread but that dropped to the wayside when my crank pulley broke in 2 pieces. Now i'm revising the accessory drive system.Thanks again fellas for your help. Once i get it worked out I'll post some pics!
" I thought I might need to fab some brackets; its the hot rodding thing to do! ... But part of me wants to solve the problem just because I've never seen it done before. "Wheres the "like" button? Thats the spirit, man
interesting thoughts on reducing the excess flow.. to reduce heating of the fluid.. i seem to recall several different displacements but those might just be for Big truck pumps...http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/1209sr_power_steering_pump/has some interesting flow and pressure setting info.. be sure to click thru the images.some installation info on saginaw pumpshttp://www.rockauto.com/info/Atsco/220129%20Saginaw%20Pump%20Reservoir%20Removal%20and%20Installation.pdf
Yoww!! check my posting on PY. I made some custom brackets for the Type2 pump and alternatorhttp://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=754619
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The link should work now.,. it did for me.
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Worked today Thats a good looking setup, I like it. If I were to tackle it myself I would probably be stuck with using heavy steel plate instead. Lots of ideas on that thread.